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down to a mississippi reunion. >> george bush sounded more southern below the mason/dixon line. politicians on both sides do that. i don't hold him at fault for trying to sound like a pandering politician. >> roland, what do you make of this video? >> i think it is utterly laughable that sean hannity and the rest of the folks make this out to be something significant. something that was written on june 7th, 2007, on cnn.com, was a column i wrote with the headline called "obama's quiet riots are real." so they want to -- >> quiet riot is a phrase he was using in this very speech. >> no, but my point is i was referencing the speech that he also gave to the hampton ministers conference. here's the deal, you talk about the amount of money spent on the gulf coast. first of all, new orleans and gulf coast, that's alabama and mississippi, okay? is this going to have any impact of the selection? absolutely not. this is something more than sean hannity's infactuation with reverend jeremiah wright. >> roy watkins, is there significanceo this, do you believe? >> i think there's no materia
is from mississippi. >> this is a politician pandering to a crowd. george bush would sound more southern below the mason/dixon line. and the right still lamb upons hillary clinton for trying to put on an accent. politicians on both sides do that. >> roland martin what do you make of this obama video? >> i think it's utterly laughable that sean hahnity, daily caller and the rest of these folks are making this out to be significant. something written on june 7, 2007, was a headline i wrote on cnn.com. obama's quiet riots are real. >> quiet riot is a phrase he used in this very speech. >> no, no. i was referencing the speech he gave to the hampton minister's conference. here is the deal. talk about the amount of money spent on the gulf coast. alabama, mississippi, okay? is this going to have any impact on this election? absolutely not. this is nothing more than sean hahnity's infan situation with reverend jeremiah wright, pure and simple. >> is there a significance to this you believe? >> i think that there is no material significance here, but the republicans are very good at taking nothin
a mississippi reunion. >> george bush sounded more uthern below the mason/dixon line. politicians on both sis do that. i fault pandering politician. >> roland, wha do you this ideo? i think is utterly laughable that sean hannity a the rest of the folks make this out to something something thatas written on ne 7th, 6v2007, on cnn.com, was a column i wrote wh the headline called "obama's quiet ots are real." so they want to -- >> quiet riot is a phrase he was using in thism[ very speech. >> no, but my point is i w referencing the speech that he alsoave to the hampton ministers conference. here's t deal, yu talk abou the ou of money spent on the gulf coast. first of all, new orleans and gulf coast, that's alaba and mississipp o have any impact of the selection? absolutely not. this is something more than seaz hannity's inactuation with reverend jeremiah right. >> roy watkins, is there significance to this, do you lieve? >> i tnk the's no materl significance ere, but the puicans are very goodt taking nothi and turning into what apars to be something. we he to remember we live ina countrthat has for
than under george bush, over 4 1/2 trillion dollars under obama, $700 billion under george bush, the expanding war, you know, people thought obama was going to be the peace president but in fact on day three in office he intensified the bombing in pakistan. and then spread the drone wars into yemen and somalia, surged the troops into afghanistan and withdrew from iraq only because it was george bush's date of withdrawal. it of the date george bush had negotiated to end the immunity for u.s. soldiers and barack obama had done his darn december to try to -- darndest to extend that date so the troops may be there now if he had had his way so yes, we haven't gotten peace. voting for either of the two major parties is basically a very good way to ensure that we will continue to send jobs overseas, undermine our wages at home, watch the cross of health care and housing and education continue to skyrocket out of reach and watch the climate essentially go up in flames, because under this president, as much as under george bush, we have seen the polices of drill baby drill and in fact th
director to president george w. bush. also a romney supporter. matt, good afternoon to you, sir. >> great to be with you. >> is this the last best chance for governor romney? true or false? what do you think? >> i guess kind of true. it's a great opportunity. i think it's a big mistake for candidates, especially when they're running for president, to put all the marbles in a debate. because really what you want to do in a debate, is first of all, you don't want to be swinging so much for the fences that you make a lot of errors. i worked for president george w. bush, as you said, and in his first debate in 2004, a lot of people felt like he gave a subpar performance. and there's no question that we breathe some life into our opponents, and if president obama, who some have characterized as almost a messianic kind of figure, comes across as someone who does not have a real plan for second term, he could be looking at poll numbers that get even more tight. >> but if governor romney doesn't unveil some sort of grand plan for his first term, that won't move the needle at all either, will it?
the federal government with their boots on our neck. when george bush was president, we lost 700,000 jobs per month. all these programs were in place at the time. the only addition is the health care act, which has not been fully implemented. i think that you have a selective memory of where we are in this country and how we got to where we currently are. >> i must say, mr. sadler may well be the only person, the only small business owner, former small-business owner in the state who does not think the regulatory and tax burden under this administration has make -- made life harder to create jobs. i will tell you, crisscrossing the state, it does not matter, east texas, west texas, austin, dallas, houston, small-business owners say their life has become much harder with the regulatory uncertainty and burdens. two-thirds of all new jobs come from small-business. >> i am not hearing that from small business. you keep saying that, but i do not hear it. >> in response to the romney video, a obama video service in which he discusses market forces and competition, but also the redistribution of wea
that was been wrongly at the seat of george bush in the republican party when it goes back to democratic house important -- but nevertheless i wrote in that book that romney would make a great presidential nominee. i didn't know who the nominee would be. it's not a book about romney. i was proven remarkably impressionable by the 2007 book. the dean of the columbia school of journalism. the new yorkers national political reporter and always the go to guy for national political stories. the profile the in 2005 for the new yorker. it was a very nice piece. he told his liberal democratic leaders, the most influential conservative you ever heard of. okay. [laughter] that's okay, i guess. i don't really speak to the manhattan crowd, the your crowd. how many of you describe to the new yorker? i rest my case. he had read that and remembered that i've written this book about romney. what do you think now? have read the book. no, i haven't. go back and read in and coming back. he did. he called me back in about a week. what do you think of the book? we talked about it. in fact, i made predictions about
are the republican nominee president george bush, the independent russ perot, and governor bill clinton, the democratic nominee. my name is carole simpson. and i will be the moderator for tonight's 90-minute debate. >> 90-minute debate, she says. that is carole simpson then. and here is carole simpson today. once again, the lady in red. carole simpson, amazing seeing you here, 20 years later, welcome. you know, all kinds of history made that night. you and i were talking on the commercial break, people recognizing you all around the world in the 20 years since. and it was unique about that night, the three debaters, not the usual two, you had, my goodness, questions from the audience, you had yourself, you're the first woman to host a presidential debate. just -- if i may, first question, perspectivewise, you presided over history, did you not? >> i did. and that was the most exciting -- it was the pinnacle of my career to be able to moderate a presidential debate that is like every reporter's dream in washington is to have that opportunity. so i was thrilled. and i don't like you talki
of george w. bush. >> one of the things both campaigns talk about is this is a possible advantage for governor romney because there is an elevated factor for him. he is on the same stage as the president. these debates to make an impression. sometimes they have a lasting impression. often, they do not. it is an opportunity, one of the few moments in the campaign, the conventions are another, but this is the last opportunity that both candidates have to speak to such a large audience at once. >> laura meckler, thank you for being with us. we have warren decker. he is from a university in fairfax, virginia. joining us from boston, a professor alan schroeder. he has 50 years of high risk tv. what makes a good debate and a good debater? >> i think the difference between a really good debate from my standpoint, intercollegiate debate, and debates we see at the presidential level is that a really good debate would be characterized by some depth of clash and arguments back and forth between the two. a lot of that is missing from presidential debate. the testing of ideas comes from that c
to be totally fair. people said some really nasty things about george bush when he was in office. there are pretty awful character turs of him. there's one significant thing, it did not have the racialress nans of him and that's a huge thing. here's one thing that i think they have in common. those things didn't really work. those slurs against george bush did not really work with the mass amount of people and i do not think that these things are working in part because we have grown as a country. we elected barack obama. that doesn't mean that we've seen the end of racism but it does mean that people my age, people a little younger than me don't have that same resonance because they've seem people like michelle obama and barack obama all the time. this is more desperate than effective. >> joe, mitt romney himself have said some things that kind of go along with some of the more brazen stuff if you look at it a certain way. he talks about how the president doesn't have american values. he says it repeatedly on the campaign trail. listen to this. >> we've got to stop apologizing f
of a broader pattern where the obama white house wants to continue george w. bush's anti-terror policies, even expand them in terms of drone strikes and so on without completely acknowledging what they're doing. but in this case, it's made them look ridiculous. it seems unnecessary. >> i've lived in the middle east and in libya. and nothing that you see is as it seems. you don't have any idea who these people r. they showed up with grenade launch easy and sophisticated weapons. but in libya today, everybody's got some. >> that's fine. you don't even have to say, this is definitely terrorism. you just don't spend a week saying, well, it's all about this video that was made in southern california and the muslim world is really angry. if you want to hedge your bets, okay. but they didn't. they went all in -- >> i'm going to apologize for them for wanting to get all the facts before they opened up their mouths and started blabbering. >> they did open up their mouths and start blabbering. >> i'm going to cut them a little slack for wanting to get all the facts before they go out and say it was a te
to john kerry losing narrowly to george w. bush in that state, the president has a couple huge advantages we're seeing in the ten-point game, one is the auto bailout. there is no state besides michigan be impacted more positively by the auto bailout than ohio. 82 out of 88 counties have an auto parts supplier in them that's felt a direct effect of the bailout. part of why the economy is doing better there. it's enough to move the needle. also the case that anti-union backlash in the industrial midwest and wisconsin has motivated organized labor in ohio in a way, the case always for democrats ohio is the place where organized labor has the most impact. this year motivating them more so. all that adds up to it's been an uphill climb for mitt romney, ten points is probably not what that margin will be on election day, but it's -- it is a state that's very hard to figure out a map for mitt romney to win. possible but not -- very hard. almost kind of fantastical, ha his naer to. >> so many other things about mitt romney -- >> it's just very, very hard. >> kurt andersen a son of the midwest is.
ready, shovels hitting the ground, and a net loss of jobs in the time he's been president. george bush is unpatriotic and irresponsible, $14 trillion in debt, eight years. he's got $6 trillion and said he cut the deficit in half in his first term. he's not been asked the simple basic questions by anybody. how did we get to -- >> except by univision. >> sean: one example. >> they haven't even hit him on the outright lie about libya. another anticipated obama argument, this crisis was caused by two wars and push tax cuts. that's so easily refuted. 2007, $161 billion deficit with two wars raging and bush tax cuts implemented in 2003. what romney really needs to do, though, is stress the urgency. none of this john mccain, obama will make a fine president. no. if obama is re-elected, this country is over as we know it. >> yeah. >> he needs to stay that in no uncertain terms. i say this, not because i'm a partisan, i'm scared to death of our lifetime earnings being in jeopardied, i'm scared to death of our liberty, of our prosperity. the american dream is gone. he doesn't believe in opportun
. it was a no-brainer. the same was with george bush. when he ran, he did great work for us. we had a great relationship, the things he did for california. how quickly he was out there with our fires, how quickly he responded, all the needs that we had. and of course i endorsed him right away, even though we didn't agree on everything, but he was my man. so some other times you just figure, like, i got to wait a little bit, i want to hear the debates, i'm going to look forward to the debates, then i make up my mind. that's where i am right now with this whole. >>
was homeland security advisor during the george w. bush administration, as we often point out, she currently serves on the cia's external advisory committee and recently traveled to libya with her employer, mcandrews and forbes. she had actually met with ambassador stevens. what do you make of the pictures you see of what arwa's talking about? >> as i listen to arwa, it just reinforces what we said last week and we've said from the beginning. investigators have to go there, even if you didn't have all the physical evidence there that arwa just described to our viewers, you would want to know from the witness interviews, anderson, you would want to know measurements, you would want to be able to take people through it to really understand what the dynamic was. but then you see things like handprints and blood samples. one of the things, the first thing you would do, i'll give you an example, that is you would take the blood sample off the toilet and the bidet and see whether or not it matched first to the ambassador's. did he fall. there's all sorts of things you would want to know. you know,
to distinguishes himself from george w. bush. >> that's a very key point. i'm going to revisit that point. >> and what is mitt romney's task, is it an overview, specifics on the tax front or does he defend himself on various gaffs? what is the key nut romney has to crack tonight? >> he has three things he has to do. he's a key debateor. the second thing is he will finally get the chance without the clutter of campaigns and attack ads to talk to the american people. this is mitt romney's chance and heap has to do the things rick was talking about. he has to say i don't care about tax reform, i don't care about energy policy, i care about the well being of mom. pull it together. >> one of the great mysteries of this campaign, here is a guy with a splend it baid backgrounn bill clinton said that. why is he unable to connect on the key issue of the day, jobs and the economy with i'm going to say the average person out there? what is missing? >> he is superbly skilled at the details but that's not what americans care about. so keith wants to talk about details because that's a terrible strateg
percent. >> yes. >> gretchen: what about the other 90 percent? >> steve: george bushes fault? >> gretchen: i am anding a question. >> you are exposing the attitude of the establishment media to all of president obama and his economic record. break it down. the president said i am only 10 percent responsible for a massive accumulation of debt. he is a big spender, a very big spender and that's the principle reason why we have a massive deficit of trillion a year. he has raised government spending the latestleast of modern presidents. but he raised it 23. look at pure obama areas, he is the biggest spending since president truman. >> steve: what is interesting george bush 3.2. spending up 3.2. over lap bush and obama 10 percent . the cure obama years. 10-13. that is 23 percent increase. >> steve: why didn't you make that available to people of 60 minutes. >> would they have use today? i don't think so. >> brian: it was carried over with interest. and he's only responsible for 10 percent of the deficit that is being pened on him. >> you can juggle around the numbers all you like. he said it
the liberal media for the campaign's troubles. the press didn't treat ronald reagan and george w. bush any less unfairly, and both men managed not only to win the presidency but to get re-elected. mr. romney would do better to focus more on reducing his unforced errors and less on the fourth estate's political bias. if whining about the liberal media was a winning strategy for republicans, newt gingrich would be the nominee." >> well, and newt gingrich is a great example -- i don't mean to go back there -- a great example of the problem we're talking about here. because -- >> no. >> -- no, instead of stepping forward and separating himself from this candidate, he somehow, because of his party -- >> todd akin is going to lose. that's a distraction. >> it is. >> i'm talking about the presidential race. we're one week out from the first presidential debate, and we have brand-new polling out this morning from three separate swing states that show this race is slipping away. >> and they're the big three. >> and they're the big three, mika. >> yes, they are. are you ready? >> i'm ready for you t
george h.w. bush never once whined about process. you know why? because james baker told the press what they were going to be following. and he told the candidate what he was going to be doing. and every week the candidate did it. the message was unbelievable. but again, going on with charles krauthammer, for six months mitt has been matching obama small ball for small ball. a hit-and-run critique here. this is important. a hit-and-run critique here, a slogan of the week there. that's what we've been saying. sam stein, there is no over arching message, no reagan message, no thatcher message, no george h.w. bush message in 1988. it's small ball. you have a libyan embassy blow up. you push him out the next morning and do something that even the romney campaign now understands was an absolute disaster. the president makes a faux pa about a bump in the road which was a stupid thing to say but they obsess over that. they say this is the message. this is how we're getting people back to work and change the economy clearly they're chasing after news headlines trying to win the day. >> that is
with george w. bush, which cost him a lot -- sign in and moaning throughout the debate the george w. bush, which cost compared the -- cost him the debate. if there are not a lot of those 47% comments that president running mate -- did i say president running? -- mitt romney? mitt romney apologized. host: let's look at tom and said governor romney made yesterday about the debate. -- that governor romney made yesterday about the debate. [video clip] >> there is a lot of interest, people want to know who will win, who will score, and in my view it is not winning and losing, or the people themselves, the president and myself. it is about something bigger than that. these debates are about the pathway for word for america that we would choose, and the american people will have to make their choice. i look forward to these debates. i am delighted that we will have three debates. he will be a conversation with the american people that will span almost an entire month. host: mitt romney on the campaign trail yesterday. we have seen the candidates talk about this low expectation game. howard kurtz
. the margin was quite high. it's important to remember that george w. bush and call rove had a brilliant strategy of our reach to hispanic voters, and it was successful. george w. bush in 2004 won at least 40 percent of the vote. the exit polling had a net 44. but it was a remarkable accomplishment. and now romney is pulling at best in the mid-20s. and his own campaign said they need to reach 38 percent nationally in order to be competitive in the states where the latino vote will be critical. so what the republican party has done is to merge to the right instead of george of the bush, carl rove, john mccain. let's reach out to hispanics and make immigration reform something beefier. a party where mitt romney now embodies the party. he promised to veto. he is on a radical policy prescription. the idea of making life so miserable year that immigrants are literally purge from the country. so this looks to the right has hit badly with hispanics. that means as you point out in your paper the southwest is out of reach with of, in large part because of this. they pulled out of the mexico. they
speechwriter for president george w. bush. mark, what the intel services are telling us now is that not only was what she said not true, but this administration knew it wasn't true and they knew it for several days. not only did they know this was a terrorist attack, but, they knew it had been listed officially inside the government as a terrorist attack. that they were searching for the suspects. that it was an attack on u.s. soil, which a u.s. consulate is. and the first u.s. ambassador to be killed since 1979. they knew all that when susan rice was sent out to tell us it was in response to a video and just a spontaneous act. what, please put this in perspective for us. >> well, let's have the most generous interpretation possible for this administration. when eli lake broke the story, why i think it is wrong, this is only explanation possible. when eli lake broke the story. megyn: "daily beast". >> yeah for "the daily beast", soon after the attack we had a pretty good bead on some of the individuals involved in the attack. another one said we had two kinds of intelligence on one guy. we b
. george w. bush in 2004 won at least 40% of the vote, the exit polling had him at 44, but most experts say it was 40. still, it was a remarkable accomplishment. and now romney's polling at best in the mid 20s with the hispanic vote. and his own campaign as said they need to reach 38% nationally in order to be competitive in the states where the latino vote will be critical. so what the republican party has done, obviously, is lurched to the right in recent years. instead of george w. bush, karl rove, john mccain, let's reach out to hispanics and make immigration reform something we're for. mitt romney now embodies the part he says arizona's a model, he's promised to veto the dream act, and he's for self-deportation, the idea of manging life so -- making life so miserable here that immigrants are literally purged from the country. so this lurch to the right has hurt him badly. that strategy means, as you point out in your excellent paper, really the southwest is out of reach for them in large part because of this. they've pulled out of new mexico. they have a shot in colorado and nevada, bu
don't remember him calling bush that. george w. bush with 1,020 vacation days obama with 78. and it's not just john sununu. here is newt gingrich to make it very, very clear. >> i'm assuming there's some rhythm to barack obama that the rest of us don't understand. whether he needs large amounts of rest whether he needs to go play basketball for a while, i don't watch espn -- i don't quite know what his rhythms are. he is not a real president. >> cenk: play basketball. he doesn't work hard enough. i don't know what his rhythm is. come on newt just say it. i don't know if you know this fox news but he is black! yeah newt i have news for you. they know. and now you didn't need a political man just as epic to try to solve it for the republicans, right? ♪ all right michael shure first of all do you think i have gone overboard in calling the election? >> i'm of two schools of thought about that. i think you are not overboard. i think everything we are lead to believe right now shows a floundering romney. i spent a lot of time trying to figure out what he can possibly do
reagan, reagan stood up to it. and it was true for george h.w. bush. he had a moment to knock out bill clinton and he didn't. >> schieffer: this debate will be about domestic affairs. i want to ask you something about the foreign policy front. the administration has basic plea changed its account of what happened in libya, where our u.s. ambassador was killed. they said, susan rice said on this broadcast last sunday, after the president of libya said this was the work of terrorists, she said, no, this was because of a spontaneous demonstration that had to do with that film. now they have come around to saying, well, yes, it was a terrorist attack. is mitt romney making enough of this? i haven't heard too much from him on that. >> bob, what struck me-- and i have nope the director of national intelligence for years. he's a bright man. he's a competent man. this administration in effect is now saying, "oh, don't blame the united nations ambassador. don't blame the white house spokesman. don't blame the president, because our intelligence system failed so decisively." i don't know which w
process for george h.w. bush and bill clinton. he's a political analyst for msnbc. we're glad to have you, ambassador ross. we've seen never a speech like this at the u.n. by such a key, prominent leader. here's what tom brokaw said with it on "the daily rundown." >> think what they would say if president obama did something like or george w. bush or if mitt romney had made a speech and held up that kind of bomb and drew the line across it. it kind of boggles the mind, quite frankly. >> ambassador, what if this had been an american president doing something like this? >> well, i think obviously there's a certain backdrop to what happened during the whole question of -- during the bush administration of iraq. i think this was a kind of graphic way of trying to show something. would an american president do that at the u.n.? it's an open question. is it effective? if you're trying to explain an issue people have heard about, when you reduce it to something that makes it rather clear and tends to simplify it, it at least tends to clarify what you're talking about. i think what prime minister
with george h. w. bush and bill clinton. >> ross gave a good answer but i have to respond directly to mr. bush. you the question my patriotism. you even brought some white ring congressman out of the war white house to attack me. i honor your service in world war two. i honor mr. perot's service in uniform and every other man and woman who ever served. when joe mccarthy went around this country attacking people's patriotism, he was wrong. a senator from connecticut stood up to him named prescott bush, your father was right to stand up to joe mccarthy and you were wrong to attack my patriotism. i was opposed the war but i love my country and in need a president that will bring this country together and not divided. i want to bake a unified country. [applause] >> i did not question the man's patriotism, i questioned his judgment and character. what he did in moscow was fine and he explained it and i excepted. i don't accept organizing demonstrations and a foreign country when your country is at war. i'm sorry, i cannot accept that. >> all of that debate is on our video library at c-span.org. you
hampshire governor john sununu. he served as chief of staff under george w. bush. i read a quote from a white house spokesperson and she says he hasn't had t president because of the demands of the office, to work too much on debate preparation. what are your thoughts on that? >> spin, spin, spin. let him start spinning why his 3 1/2 years have been a failure. this is an important event. debates are important. the two candidates will stand side by side and the voters are going to get a chance to evaluate. and i can't believe how hard the white house is working to spin that the president, a, is not very goods, and b, that he had no chance to prepare. that's called buying two insurance policies in case he sceud up in the debate the way he screwed up as president. martha: your candidate has been dragging in ohio, michigan, and he's behind in florida where he was once ahead. what would be your advice? what would you tell mitt romney to do tomorrow night? >> i think the governor knows what he has to do is make sure people feel he has the capacity to fill the job. but more importantly, that
than a quarter of the number of high dollar donors george w. bush had at the same point in his re-election. and now we're starting to see interesting analysis. >> continues to say do not get complacent. don't hold your cash. don't hold your checks back until june, july and august because we need to build our infrastructure now. >> what a difference four or five months make. the checks ramped up this summer. in august, obama super pac priorities usa action outraised romney's restore our future for the first time and now we see the impact. we see that restore spending plummeted from august to september. from 23 million to just 3 million. meanwhile, priorities usa has more than doubled its spending from just under 4 million in august to more than 9 million in september. now typically if you have plenty of money, you run television ads. if you don't, you run radio ads. priorities latest ad buy is on the radio point of a joint effort with the labor group. here's a piece of it. >> 150 million americans, seniors, veterans, the disabled, romney attacked them when he thought no one else wa
being in denial. >> we did not go through the decade of george w. bush and the last four years of rock obama, but what they have had to deal with, in fairness, is 9/11, a couple of wars that require a lot of spending, the tax cuts of george bush -- i am not sure where you stood on those, but they did eat into the amount of money we had to spend -- and then the recession, which was some say close to a depression. did that time prevent us from being able to make deficits and debt a top priority? >> it should not have. it could have, but it should not have come out if people were thinking clearly, if they were well educated, if they even understood this whole damn thing, which they do not. if you say what percentage of the american people understand this, i would say it is a very low number. it to be everybody, and everybody should say this is my country. people should be very active about not letting anything damaged our country. the one thing we have not mentioned at all, there is no question at all in my mind, if we keep going this way, some nation is going to head over here to take us
. >> mika, as we've been saying for some time both on and off the air, if the president was george w. bush and he had said that the middle east going up in flames was a, quote, bump in the road, george w. bush would have been absolutely skewered by the press. >> at the same time, is it fair to say that the romney campaign and mitt romney himself have seized upon things too quickly and almost looked a little almost like a dog pulling on someone's leg? >> they've been hand-fisted. >> let me ask you this. >> they made a mistake. in fact, even internally inside the romney campaign, they know now that the libyan press conference, the day after, they will all tell you, was an absolute mistake, and that showed up in the polls. >> here's my question, then. because congressman peter king is calling on susan rice to step down, to resign as u.s. ambassador to the u.n. and yesterday, here's the response as they try and move forward and turn the majpage. congressman paul ryan and paul mccain. take a look at this approach. >> the response was slow. it was confused. it was inconsistent. they first said t
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